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Harry Potter  vs. Twilight

(This Argument compares and contrasts the books, movies, and fans)
WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE HARRY POTTER OR TWILIGHT SERIES AND PLAN TO! MAJOR SPOILERS FOR BOTH BOOKS!

1) The Main Guys
Edward Cullen- He is an over-protective stalker, he only likes Bella because he likes the way her blood smells, and he impregnates a human and has a half-vampire baby. He's mainly a hero who wins Bella over by being her superman.
Harry Potter- He uses the power of love to triumph over evil, which is evident in all the books.  Love from his mother, from Dumbledore, from his friends, and the love in himself.  He is emo-ish in the fifth book, and totally disrespects his friends as well as Dumbledore.
2) The Villains
The Volturi and other “bad vampires” - These vampires are violent They don’t murder people out of their rage, but out of their will to feed happily.  James and the other bad vampires like to suck the blood of humans.  Edward tries to get the Volturi to kill him in New Moon.
Voldemort-  Voldemort randomly kills innocent people throughout the books and insist on killing Harry Potter himself! He's mainly a bully playing on his own insecurities, since his father was a Muggle (someone without magic powers, like you and me).
Death Eaters- They are ferocious killers, seeing as they're Voldemort's loyal followers.  Bellatrix is probably the most demented because she's in love with Voldemort and wants to be his favorite; she also takes pride in torturing "Mudbloods" and "Blood Traitors".
3) The Fan Base
TwiGirls/ TwiMoms/ TwiGuys-  TwiGirls are obsessed with Edward Cullen’s body and so are TwiMoms.  The main reason for this is most likely due to the fact that they are lonely losers who can’t get boyfriends, or are bored with their old husbands and use Edward as a replacement.  TwiGuys are an odd subject to me but I assume that the majority of them are obsessed with Edward's body too. Furthermore, the majority of the fans are teenage girls (most of who call themselves "Twihards"). Still Twilight does have a huge fanbase and there's no denying the fans dedication.
Harry Potter Fans- Harry Potter fans don’t have stupid nicknames that they give themselves. They are devoted but the majority are not obsessed.  Although the majority of fans see Harry Potter himeslf as number one, the fans have a wide range of favorite characters.  Children, teenagers, and adults all over the world are devoted Harry Potter fans, have read the books, seen the movies, and have the merchandise.  Some obsessive fans have been known as "Potter-philes", but it's not a huge concept.
4)The Action
Twilight- Most of the action in Twilight is centered on Edward, Jacob, or somebody else saving Bella from something bad, like "bad vampires".  There's blood-shed that occurs when Bella gets into accidents before Edward can rescue her or the "good vampires" are drinking animal blood.  There are many instances when Bella's life is on the line, but almost everyone who she hangs out with is undead, so they don't have to worry about that.
Harry Potter- There is fighting in every book, there is killing from the fourth book to the seventh book. There are various life or death situations in which Harry (and sometimes his friends) have to use wit, bravery, and skill to triumph against evil. There is an extreme good vs. evil battle in the seventh book.
5) The Authors
Stephenie Meyer- She writes from Bella's point of view, which allows the readers to fully understand Bella's obsession with her boyfriend/husband.  Her writing is simple-minded and a little cliche'. Her idea about sparkling vampires is completely original. The book is lightly detailed in most parts, but greatly detailed in Edward's appearance (which is a big focus in the story).  There are various lengthy moments when Bella and Edward are sitting around “getting to know each other&#148. It is meant to target teenagers and it works.
J.K. Rowling- She writes in a brilliant and interesting way.  She uses her creativity and imagination to create a fantastic world of magic.  There are very few boring moments in the books and they do not last long.  The entire series detailed with everything that is relevant to the plot.  All the things that happen in the earlier books contribute to the climax of the final book. It is simple enough for a child to read, but complex enough to make an adult think and try to figure it out.
6) The Main Girls-
Isabella Swan- She is a typical teenage girl who happens to fall in love with a vampire.  Normally she needs Edward/Jacob to come and save her; she constantly puts her life in danger to see Edward and his family(even though he only likes her for her smell and they only like her for Edward).  She wants to be a vampire and has no regard for her family and friends or their feelings on the matter. Eventually she marries Edward, has a baby (Renesme aka Nessie) and becomes a vampire.
Hermione Granger- She is a brilliant witch who doesn’t need Harry Potter (or anybody) to rescue her because she can fight.  She’s one of the smartest people in the books and is always in favor or righteousness. She is mostly close-minded and stubborn, but she’s usually right anyway. She ends up marrying the guy who she fights with the most.
7) The Fantasy
Twilight- The fantasy in Twilight centers around vampires (who sparkle in the sun, rather than burning), and werewolves (who are actually humans who shapeshift into wolves).
Harry Potter- There is a wide range of fantasy creatures (some of which J.K. invented herself) such as centaurs, giants, goblins, acromantulas (giant spiders), skrewts, thestrals, hippogriffs and a basilisk (to name a few).  There are also fantasy objects such as the deathly hallows, the sorcerer’s/ philosopher’s stone, the pensieve, horcruxes, and everything that Fred and George Weasley created. She even came up with her own food, including candy and drinks.
8) The Central Themes
Twilight- This book series is about a new girl who falls in love with the hottest guy in school (who is a social outcast) and he just happens to be a vampire.  The book is about how they become a couple because he likes the way her blood smells and he saves her from all the trouble she gets into using his mind-reading super powers. In the end she becomes a vampire after having his hybrid baby and giving it a hybrid name based upon other characters.
Harry Potter- This series is about how a boy is marked for death, learns that he’s really a wizard at age 11, learns to use magic, and fights against the evil dark wizard who killed his parents.  His friends stick by his side throughout the series to help him fight against various dangerous creatures and situations.  He eventually learns about the connection between him and the evil wizard, Voldemort and realizes that he has to destroy him.
9) The Romance (this is a BIG one)
Bella and Edward- This book obviously has a lot more romance because this is a love story (with vampires and werewolves thrown in).  They fall in love with each other practically instantly.  Edward watches Bella sleep everynight andwants to kill her so badly that he's madly in love with her. Bella is focused on how good Edward looks, and smells (even his breath). and the way he always happens to be there when she's in trouble (by reading the minds of everyone around her).
Other Twilight Couples-  Rosalie and Emmett live like a married couple, Esme and Carlisle are a married couple, Jasper and Alice date and there are other less important couples such as James and Victoria.  Jacon loves Bella and then gets over it and falls in love with her daugher.  Most love in the books is expressed through looking "hot" and or acts of heroics.
Ron and Hermione-This is the most important couple in the Harry Potter series because they show signs of being together from books 2 to 6 and finally kiss in book seven.  It’s not an instantaneous relationship and keeps the reader in suspense about them. They are Harry Potter’s best friends, and most importantly, the main girl doesn’t end up with the main character.
Other Harry Potter Couples- Although R/Hr are my favorite couple, there are lots of other couples that matter and show their love for each other such as: Remus and Nymphadora Lupin, Molly and Arthur Weasley, Narcissa and Lucius Malfoy, Cho Chang and Cedric Diggory, Bill and Fleur Weasley.  One of the greatest things about the couples in Harry Potter is that not everything’s all happily ever after AKA some of them BREAK UP: Lavender Brown and Ron Weasley, Harry Potter and Cho Chang, Hermione Granger and Viktor Krum, Ginny Weasley and Michael Corner, Ginny Weasley and Dean Thomas.  FYI most of the married couples are not married for the entire series.  
10) The Families
The Cullens/Hales-  The Cullens/Hales are a vampire family made up of a married couple in their mid-twenties, a group of five adopted teenagers (who date) and Bella when she marries Edward.  They live in a glass house in the middle of nowhere, and want nothing more than to appear normal.
The Swans- Bella has a friendship-relationship with her mother, and a mother-son relationship with her father. She has to be the adult in her family because her parents don't discipline her.
The Blacks- They are a Native American familywho descend from a line of werewolves (aka shapeshifters?) who have an extreme prejudice against vampires.
The Harry Potter Families-
Weasleys- Very close and cute family; they always help up for each other and are Gryffindors.  They fight and hang out with each other just like a real family.
Malfoys- They love and support each other.  They save each other from anything (even Voldemort’s fury).  They are not perfect.  Narcissa is often miserable because her husband is a Death Eater and then he gets landed in Azkaban.  Draco tries to kill Dumbledore because he’s afraid Voldemort will kill his family.  They sincerely love each other.
Potters- James was killed by Voldemort before he went to Harry.  Lily sacrificed her life for Harry, thus her blood became a source of love which stopped Voldemort from killing Harry.  This is why he has to live with the Dursleys (Lily's sister has Lily's blood).  

Other Families- There are a lot of families in Harry Potter but you get the point; they’re all very different.

11) The Actors
Okay, this is a bit unfair because the Harry Potter actors have been with Harry Potter for about a decade and the Twilight actors have only just become Twilight actors. Yes, people give them lots of attention, but only because they star as the characters that they love, not because they’re good.  Robert Pattinson, himself said that the fans scream for "Edward" not "Rob".  They only want him to continue his Edward role, so they can see their favorite vampire portrayed on screen.  Furthermore, I’m sure that some Twilight fans know that Robert Pattinson was in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (the 4th movie for those of you who don’t know) and nobody cared.  There were no rabid fan girls chasing after him (and he looked much hotter in that movie, though that's my opinion) when he  played Cedric Diggory.  The actors in Harry Potter are actually very good and they fit the mold of the characters that they portray.  They look like the characters and act like the characters(for the most part); some exceptions would be Harry's eyes (which are green; Dan's are blue), and the lack of freckles on the actors who play The Weasleys.  With all the actors that have appeared in Twilight so far, I think Dakota Fanning is the best.

12) The Good Guys
Twilight-  They are called good guys because they do not murder innocent people; instead, they murder animals. They don’t help anyone, except Bella until she becomes a vampire and can fend for herself.
Harry Potter- In Harry Potter the ultimate good guy is Albus Dumbledore; everyone who works for him (including Harry Potter) is good to some extent.  They all fight for justice in the seventh book to destroy evil. Severus Snape is the ultimate agent going back in forth between Dumbledore and Voldemort, convincing them both that he is loyal to no one else, while always staying true to the good side and secretly protecting Harry Potter.

13) Power
Twilight- In Twilight power is equated to physical strength and immortality. Mainly living forever and having super powers like seeing the future and reading minds is cool and the toughest vampires are the biggest and strongest (like Emmett).
Harry Potter- The most powerful magic is LOVE.  Immortality is only sought after by Lord Voldemort (the ultimate villain).  Though being able to read minds is a good skill to have, Harry is given great pain by involuntarily seeing into Voldemort’s mind. Furthermore due to the destruction of the sorcerer’s stone, the only way to live forever is through well protected horcruxes (which require the person to murder).  It’s just wrong.  There are 3 items (the invisibility cloak, the resurrection stone, and the Elder wand) that are rumored to make one the "Master of Death", when brought together, but this has not been proven.  
Welcome all Harry Potter and Twilight fans. There are very few similarities between these books, but the main thing that they have in common is that they are best-selling novels. Yes, I am in favor of a certain book series, so you may want to leave before this is over. I personally hope that you do not take offense, because there is reasoning to support the things that I say, though an argument is in some part, opinion-based. I am not a twilight fan so if you are a twilight fan, you probably won't like this. I just hope that you don't take it too personally.

So, I edited this a bit, because I realized that I went into more detail for things that I like rather than things that I didn't like, which is unfair. I just thought that instead of telling you how awful something is, I'd explain in more detail what happens and let you decide if it sucks or not.
I tried to make this paper unbiased, but I am a Harry Potter fan and Twilight fans may not like this. You've been warned.

P.S. Please don't leave any nasty comments. If you don't like it, you can say it in a dignified way.
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WeasleyWoman Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You know you're a Harry Potter fan when you yell at the TV screen that Harry's eyes are GREEN, not BLUE.

Heheh. :nerd:
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Siri-Alexander Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
so true, when you puff up your chest in self righteous indignation and snarl "Where the Hell is Teddy Lupin!" you know you're attached.
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WeasleyWoman Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:XD: Yeah! Or what about if you get annoyed that Winky was never featured in the GoF (and neither was Dobby)?
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Siri-Alexander Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Don't get me started, I'll go into a gryffindor snit and it'll be on for young and old.
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WeasleyWoman Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heheh. Say, what house are you on Pottermore?? :)
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Siri-Alexander Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The house of the Brave and BOLD!!!!!! *clears throat* not to blow my own horn or anything. You?
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WeasleyWoman Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha, same. Gryffies ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :iconraegplz:
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Siri-Alexander Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
YEEAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my name is Stormstar12559, look me up.
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CloverFieldIsPownage Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I salute you! woot! :D
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Thank you; I appreciate the salute.
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TeamCullen1600 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry, but this is biased...
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Yeah, I can live with that. To be honest, it probably does sound a bit biased (though I tried not to be) but it was written a decently long time ago and I decided not to try to update but leave it as it was for the sake of memory and how I felt when I wrote it. The thing is, it would be practically impossible for me to write something like this without being at least somewhat biased, because I 'm a big fan of Harry Potter (it was essentially what got me interested in fantasy in the first place) whereas I feel that Twilight is an insult to literature, mythical creatures, and teenage girls. I hope this doesn't sound too harsh, but it's my opinion.
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TeamCullen1600 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I do prefer harry potter, twilight isn't the best book i'll agree, but it's a story, it's readable, it'll do.
At least your honest :)
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SepticCascade Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like this its seems like a lot of thought went in it.
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Dramione-Weasley Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2011   Writer
WOW I LOVE IT <3
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SimbaSpyro Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wooooooooo!
Harry: Avada kadavra idiots!
twilight people: screeeeeeeeeeeam!
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narusakuistruelove Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2011
FUCK YES!
Ron/Hermione beats Edward/Bella any day!
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hyprmnkyPWNS Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2011
^^THIS.
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asimplegirlsworld Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
This really isn't bashing or praising one book series over one another. It's just showing the difference in the two books. and the person who said that you're wrong and baised. Well, you cant go wrong when you're giving the black and white version of a plot.
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mitaki1812 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for making this.
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010
lol You're welcome. :boogie: :party:
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mitaki1812 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
seriously. i think i'll show this to my twitard friend XD
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010
I have those too... They all started as Potter fans and then read Twilight and it stole their brains. lol After awhile they all calmed down and realized that Harry Potter is WAY more EPIC (especially 'cause Twilight doesn't have epicness), so they're alright. :boogie:
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mitaki1812 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
that happened to me. and they all saw the light that is harry potter except for one. so i haffta show her this.
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MaraudingDisaster Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010
This piece is excellent and I am very happy I came upon it.
I love your tone and style !
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2010
Thank you very much.
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countryshutterbug Featured By Owner May 15, 2010
You brought up some very good points and it was nice to read a comparison that wasn't completely prejudiced. Personally, I am a fan of both series. Twilight is more recent so that's what I'm currently dwelling on (not obsessing with). I do NOT like the series because of Edward, in fact I believe the story would have been better if him and Bella died. Of course, then that would be the end of the book and would leave us wondering, as it was supposedly Bella telling the story. I am also not obsessing over Jacob. I'm not entirely sure why I like the series, I just do. And Harry Potter... well it just rocks. It is possible to like both though.
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner May 16, 2010
I totally agree with you that it's possible to like both. I have lots of friends who are big fans of both series for different reasons. And I know that not ALL Twilight fans are the same, but I would say it's the majority. All of the Twilight fans that I know are now or have been obsessed with either Edward or Jacob.
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countryshutterbug Featured By Owner May 16, 2010
I know I just wanted to point it out...
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TeamFurey Featured By Owner May 4, 2010
Harry potter Kicks Twilight's butt!
Personally, I think Twilight will NEVER be as popular as Harry Potter!
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner May 8, 2010
I agree 100%, Twilight is a passing fad and Harry Potter is an instant classic that will grace mankind for centuries.
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TeamFurey Featured By Owner May 9, 2010
So true, if you think about it Twilight's really messed up:/
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seigyoku-wolf Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
I just wanted to mention that not even the Weasley family is perfect: Percy turns his back on his family for almost half the series, and Fred and George aren't exactly poster children. This just goes to show that Rowling gives everyone and everything flaws, which only makes them more realistic.
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner May 8, 2010
:)
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RaInBoWcOvErDsNoW Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2010
if i could i would get a tatoo of this
by far the argument iv ever read

and i really like twilight but the fans are anoying


HARRY POTTER FTW
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
lol; that's nice. I appreciate that you like my argument and that you're a Twilight fan with an open mind. :)
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RaInBoWcOvErDsNoW Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
yeah theres not that many of us out there
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KawaiiSakuragirl Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2010
OH GOD YES! IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL! *ahem* This is the best HP vs. Twitlight article thingy I've ever seen! You aren't biased towards the book series (though HP is indefinitely better than Twitlight), you present hardcore facts, and it's extremely well written. Bravo.
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2010
Why, thank you! I'm extremely flattered by your comments.
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Riftress Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
other than your shortcoming comment on harry in the fifth book, i sincerely loved this pice, i'm adding it and i'm goona show this to my classmate right now!!

hope to see more of your works!! ^0^
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Riftress Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
"He is emo-ish in the fifth book, and totally disrespects his friends as well as Dumbledore."

uh.. dude, he isn't "emo-ish" at all in the fifth book. he had alot of horrible stories circulating around him, had a teacher make it slice open his own hand ever night, had regular lessons with a man he despised, and had people watching his every move for something to gossip about, and his godfather died, by the hands of his own cousin. oh, and he was possesed by voldemort.

now, if you had all the shit happening to you at once, you wouldn't exactly be dancing for joy, would you?
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Riftress Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
btw, i'm not bashing you. harry potter is my life, twilight can go die in a hole, taking all it's rabid fangirls with it. WHERE THE F*CK'S THE PIED PIPER WHEN YOU NEED HIM??
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Abbydn10 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010
Locked in a cupboard, under some stairs.
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Riftress Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Poor guy xP
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Abbydn10 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010
No, he's following his dream of being EXACTLY LIKE HARRY.
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2010
Oi, don't be offended, alright? I'm not saying that he doesn't have reason to be "emo-ish", because he totally does, but I do stand by saying that he's "emo-ish" for almost the entire book. Ron and Hermione keep trying to be nice to him and understand what's wrong with him, but he continuous yells at them and goes on and on about how no one understands him and how miserable his life is. This, I didn't think was a big deal, but I didn't appreciate how he treated Dumbledore. I love Dumbledore and I don't think Harry had the right to scream at him so much and destroy junk in his office at the end of the book, especially when Dumbledore has been saving his life since he was a baby. And I'm not judging Harry as a person, bc I know it's not his fault. I think anybody who can see into Voldemort's mind would become emo-ish at some point, but Dumbledore told him it was his ability to love that stopped him from going "bad", and Harry totally treated him like crap for it. For a long time, he doesn't believe that the power of love is stronger than Voldemort.
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Riftress Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
hey, none taken lols.

and yes, i too didn't like the way he treated dumbledore in book 5, but i can see why he behaved that way. if dumbledore just told him why he was doing the tings he was to harry, maybe harry wouldn't flare up such a temper. on the other side, his temper is his main weakness. when he's angry, nothing else matters. but his character flaws are what makes him human, a believable character.

anyways, great writing, keep it up!
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Punkberryrox Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2010
Aye, aye! I agree with you on that. And I think it's obvious that as the books go on, Harry becomes a bit more mature and develops as a person. And by the 7th book, he can block Voldemort out when he wants to and he's more acceptable. But yeah, anybody with Voldemort tampering with their thoughts would start acting like a jerk sometimes. It happened to Ron in the 7th book with locket horcrux and that's why he flared up and ran off. Poor Ron and Ginny in the 2nd book... So, overall, Harry rocks.
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Riftress Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
lols yes he does ^^
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LestatDeBratPrince Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2010
why is everyone bashing you? Good grief. I mean....Christ. THEY'RE A COUPLE OF BOOK-SERIES, PEOPLE. THEY. ARE. NOT. REAl.:XD:
*flail*
anyway.
I liked those statements. They were good constrasts and yeah I totally agree with you.
"Move over Harry Potter?"
Yeah right, over my dead House-Elf.
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